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Android updates are a tricky affair: everyone wants one, but not everyone gets them. This is how sad the state of OS upgrades are in the mobile world. It doesn’t matter if a smartphone was made by the same maker, there’s still a good chance it won’t get an update, especially if it’s a bit old.

While it’s understandable for devices around five years of age not to get a Nougat update, the sad part is that updates usually only happen for models that are less than two years old.

This brings us to the two smartphone models highlighted in this article’s title: the Samsung Galaxy J5 and the Samsung Galaxy J7. Will they be getting a Nougat update? Will the petition filed to bring Android 7.0 to these devices take? Those are questions that are best answered by the makers themselves but Samsung has so far been mum on which of their devices will be getting Nougat. They did, however, open up a Nougat beta test program for users of their newest flagship models, the Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 Edge.

So is it possible to determine an upgrade for Galaxy J5 or Galaxy J7 without official word from Samsung? We can all take a look at the chipsets of both devices.

The Galaxy J5 was released in 2015 and is running the Snapdragon 410 chipset. The good news is that the model is new, but the bad news is that there’s news that Qualcomm won’t update the graphics driver of the 410 along with many others. This makes it unlikely for the J5 to receive a Nougat update.

The Galaxy J7 was also released in 2015 and has both the Snapdragon 615 and the Exynos 7580 chipsets. Things aren’t looking too good for the former, but there’s a chance for the latter.

Android 7.0 is packed with amazing features and it’s sad that not every device owner will get to experience that.